Interview by Paola Leopizzi Harris

November 5,th 2009

Photos by C.Travis Towe and with the help of Lisa Romanak

Most people are curious about the Stan Romanak case. It has been much discussed on internet and has been a very controversial topic of Inquiry. I have known Stan for 7 years now and think that this case is one of the best-documented cases in UFO research. Professionals like Dr. Leo Sprinkle, researcher Nancy Talbot, physicist Dr. Claude Swanson, Alejandro Rojas and have been following the bizarre elements to this case for many years. It includes, implants, paranormal phenomena, alien visitation, orbs, multiple abductions, telephone communication and much film footage.

It is my personal belief that the reader should be the one to decide its veracity. If you are lucky enough to hear Stan speak in Laughlin, you will hear first hand what Stan has to share. If not, I hope this long interview with him adds to your research. 
 

“I'm trying to figure out how to do my job, too. But they're being ostriches and a Mack truck is coming while their heads are stuck in the sand. I'm trying to get the people to see the truck before they get wiped out.” 

PH: You think disclosure is going to happen? 

SR: I do, and I think all indications are it's going to happen soon. Then I'll be able to say to all those people, who were giving me grief, I told you so. 

PH: They were giving you grief about UFOS, or what? 

SR: About my case, about everything, it's like we talked about earlier, it's about jealousy. My goal, from my heart, is to enlighten the human race that we have neighbors. It really is to me, and in general, the most important thing in the history of mankind. 

PH: Yes, it is, it's the most important question. 

SR: To know that we aren't alone is huge. And to know that we are being visited is really huge, and the abduction thing is, forget it, that's a big deal. 

PH: Tell me about the police report. You had an attempt on your life? There was a white Ford Taurus... 

SR: As you know, there was a lot of surveillance. There was a white Ford Taurus...there are cars that will park and this guy with a big telephoto lens would try to take pictures of me. Well I'll get aggressive, and I'll chase them, and then they run off. Well, this little cat and mouse game was going on, and I was outside all day long doing yard work. Well, in the evening, the last time I went to look I heard this thing go by my ear. Just before this happened I looked above the house and there was this ball of light above the house. I turned just in time to see that thing and then I saw a spark go off the road a few hundred yards down and I heard a pop. Everybody heard it, even my stepdaughter said it was somebody shooting a gun.  

PH: Did you find a bullet? 

SR: No. The police came, though. It was about ten o'clock at night, in July. 

PH: Do you feel like the Laughlin conference is going to be okay for you? Are you driving? 

SR: I don't know. I'm afraid of flying, so I don't know. 

PH: I would think flying is a lot easier and safer, it's a lot faster. 

SR: There's always something. There were rumors that everybody in the group was supposed to be taken out in September. I told everyone about it. 

PH: One of the reasons I didn't do an interview sooner is that the group is so large. There are so many people around, Stan, that I didn't know what to make of all the people. 

SR: Yeah, there are a lot of groupies. There's a smaller core group that are researchers. 

PH: So the smaller group has remained, and the other ones have flitted away, right? 

SR: Yeah, and that's how it goes, people come in, people leave, people go, you know. 

PH: Yes, and so there were some people that you were working with initially and I thought oh, I don't want to bug them at all; I don't want them to be upset about anything. I read your book and I have to say that it's brilliant; it's a wonderful book. It's not only good, it's very detailed and a chronological document. And that's the way it had to be, because you can't jump into the middle of this story. It has to be from the beginning from your Red Rocks sighting, when you were trying to do the movie for Lisa, that you were online and you wanted to show her red rocks and then this UFO came into the picture.  

SR: Yes, I sent her a care package, and I wanted her to come visit me so I was heading to take pictures of Red Rocks and to videotape the scenery when I saw my first UFO. 

PH: And that's the way it started according to what you thought, but then in your regression you remembered that you were approached by a blond lady when you were very young. 

SR: Actually, I knew about it before the regression, but you don't always put two and two together when you're a kid. And you know, there's always that story that my parents talked about, the UFO that armed one of the missiles in ND. 

PH: That was in the sixties, wasn't it? 

SR: That was in 1968. Some mysterious person e-mailed me a copy of that. 

PH: Well I know Robert Salas, who was present at that Malmstrom Air Force Base missile shutdown. There were two missile shutdowns around that time, in 1967 and 1968. Your father was in the military? 

SR: My father was in the Air Force, and he was stationed in Grand Forks during 1968. They didn't have a shutdown, they had the missile armed. 

PH: And the UFO shut it down? 

SR: No, the UFO armed the missile. At that base, the missiles were kept ready to be armed, and the UFO came over and armed it. 

PH: I've never heard that. 

SR: Yeah, I've got the paperwork on it. They found it. What happened was, they saw this UFO, they tracked this UFO over one of the missile silos. After the UFO left, they tracked it to a small town in North Dakota where it hovered above a water tower. When MP's went to examine the missiles in the silo, somehow the doors were unlocked and the missile was armed. 

PH: What would be the benefit of that? We have to guess, obviously, because we just don't know... 

SR: They want us to know that they can do whatever they want, that we have no control. It's like, either you stop it, or we're going to mess with you guys. 

PH: So they can arm and disarm the missiles. This is the first I've heard of that. 

SR: Well, I've got the paperwork on it.

National UFO Reporting Center

Occurred : 6/6/1968-Location: Minot, ND-Duration: 30mins- Minot 1968 missle arming

SW. of Minot ND. An MP. got a call to one of the missile silos. The Sergeant on duty took two other men with him. He told me that they had come over to see a UFO over the silo. The guards at the silo were like statues. The locks on the gates were open, and gates open. The sergeant had contact with the officers down in the silo.

They were very upset, it seems that the missile had been armed and unlocked in launch mod, and that the warhead was armed.

PH: I believe you. It was in 1968 -- was your father stationed there then? 

SR: Yes. We were in the small town in ND, where it hovered over the water tower. It was over the water tower for such a long time that they sent a detail out to surround the tower, and my father was part of that detail. My older brother was doing a paper route at that time, and he remembers seeing the UFO and seeing our dad out there. 

PH: Earlier, you had had a strange experience with a lady. Was she strange looking? 

SR: She was very beautiful. I drew a picture of her. She's very beautiful, but has bizarre eyes. It's always about the eyes. And I found out later that she's probably my daughter. 

PH: Really. So this woman is talking to you... 

SR: She's an adult, I'm a child, and she's probably my daughter. Explain that. 

PH: Well, that has to do with time travel, with our perception of time, and with where they placed you in time.  

SR: I know I'm important, but it will be interesting to find out to what extent. 

PH: What did she say, exactly? 

SR: When I first saw her, I was playing with a toy car. It was a beautiful warm day, and she walked up and said, "You're such a wonderful little boy. You know you're special." And I was like, yeah, whatever. I looked at her and her eyes were just bizarre. 

PH: Almond-shaped? 

SR: Yes, but with big pupils, and almost Day-Glo blue. She opened her hand and she had a huge marble, and it was floating there about an inch off her hand, and it started glowing blue. She goes, "I want to show you something." I was looking at this marble, and I started to feel kind of weird. Then I could hear my mom calling me. My mom came running over because I was talking with this strange lady, but before my mom got there the lady had run off. And my mom took me back inside and told me she didn't want me talking to strangers.  

PH: Your mom saw you talking to her. Did you ever talk to your mother about this? 

SR: No, but this woman showed up again two more times. I was born in Denver, and shortly after that we moved to North Dakota where my dad was stationed, and then later we moved to the base in Cheyenne. And I remember when we were Christmas shopping or something, and this strange woman came up to us as we were getting in the car. I was the last to get in, and I felt this hand on my shoulder, and this woman started saying things like "oh, what marvelous children you have." I saw my parents looking at each other, and the woman started talking to my mom and petting my head. She was asking all these questions, and they were kidding around with her, and she said, "Well, if you don't want him, I'll take him." 

PH: She said that? 

SR: I started freaking out, because I thought my parents were going to give me away. I remembered her. I didn't know where I knew her from, but she had those weird eyes. Then it happened again when we moved back to Denver and I lived near this place called Ruby Hill Park. I was about eleven years old. This strange woman walked up to me while I was waiting for the pool at the playground to open up. I was lying on my stomach on the swings, waiting for my friends to show up, and this woman walked up the bike path and sat on the swings a little away from me. She started asking me questions, like how have you been, are you eating well, are you being treated well, things like that.  

PH: So you must have been thinking, who are you? 

SR: Yes, the only reason I remember these questions is because they were so bizarre, especially coming from a stranger. She said to me, "You're very special, you're a part of us and we're a part of you."  I looked at her as she was talking to me and I didn't see her mouth move. That really scared the bejesus out of me, and I ran away from her and back home. 

PH: Did you remember this after the sightings? 

SR: I knew about this, but I didn't put two and two together because I really didn't believe in this stuff. Even after my first sighting, I thought it was some secret military stuff. 

PH: But this was such a beautiful UFO photo. For me, your story begins with that sighting because it was on all the news shows, and wasn't it on Entertainment Tonight? 

SR: It was on Entertainment Tonight, and all the local news shows. One of them had some guy from NASA who looked at it, and he said, "I don't know what that is." 

PH: That's when we all thought your story began, from that point on. That's when all the people came and wanted to tell your story. 

SR: I started having experiences after that. A year after Red Rock, I had my first abduction experience that I remember. 

PH: With the Possum People (I have the drawing of that), and the woman with the necklace. Now, the necklace, does that have any significance? 

SR: It looked like an angel with its wings folded inward, which I thought was weird. It was like a symbol, but like an abstract version of it. I'll never forget that necklace. 

PH: So then your story went on as we know it, and all this bizarre stuff started happening. You were downloading these formulae. Have you been downloading anything recently? 

SR: Not lately, but I've been having some weird dreams lately.  

PH: About what? 

SR: About current stuff that's happening. I've got the feeling that we're close to whatever this is, and we need to be prepared.  

PH: We're close to disclosure, or to some kind of paradigm shift? 

SR: To some kind of shift. But disclosure is a kind of shift. 

PH: How do you see it? They talk about it in the Bible as separating the wheat from the chaff, and people with a higher vibration go one way, and people with a lower vibration go another way. Do you see it anything like that? 

SR: Yes, I definitely do see people being separated. That, I think, is why I'm here. To get as many people into that higher platform as I can, before the shift happens. 

PH: Do you think the shift is going to happen before you get to Laughlin in February? 

SR: No, not that soon. I do think something important is going to happen before Laughlin. 

PH: Do you think it's something political, or spiritual? 

SR: I think it's going to be part of this disclosure thing. Not a big disclosure, but a disclosure. 

PH: By the United States? 

SR: Yes, I honestly believe something's going to happen. I think there are indications of it. I might be wrong. 

PH: I've been fielding questions about Obama all over Italy all month. Why would it come from Obama? He's got enough things on his plate.  

SR: It's got to come from somebody. If it doesn't get disclosed soon, it may never happen. 

PH: I've talked to some very important people, who have said that we have a small window for disclosure and if it doesn't happen, they're going away. Do you believe this? 

SR: I think that's probably true. I think the guys upstairs are giving us an opportunity here. 

PH: There's a window of time here and if we don't do it, they're going to go away. And if that happens, then we're screwed, because we'll have to deal with all the earth changes and everything else. 

SR: I believe it. I don't know if that's really true or not, but that makes perfect sense to me. 

PH: People have been telling me that either we do it now, or they'll just say, forget this planet. 

SR: It's about the timeline. You have to understand that we don't really understand space and time the way they do, and it's all about timing. I think the timeline has shifted already. I think it went from being really bad, with this New World Order stuff, to something a little more positive. I don't believe in the 2012 stuff. Even the Mayans don't believe in it. They say it's just going to be change, not devastation. Some English guy came up with that theory. 

PH: I don't go there, because it's not productive. 

SR: Like in 2000, everybody said the world was going to end. It was a big nothing. 

PH: You have this feeling about disclosure, is it stronger now than it was before? 

SR: Yes. I think it's going to be forced. Something really big is about to happen. 

PH: Do you believe that we've back-engineered anything? 

SR: Yes, absolutely. In fact, that's the only reason that we've kept UFOs quiet, because the ones who have the back-engineered technology don't want to lose money or lose control over it. 

PH: We've back-engineered alien technology, so we have some that probably works very well by now...how do we tell the difference between our stuff and their stuff? 

SR: Because they're going to come down and show themselves, and they don't look human. 

PH: But they would have to come out of the craft to do that. 

SR: They've already done that, over and over. I've got pictures of them in my back yard. 

PH: You do. 

SR: Lots of people do. You can go online and see a lot of stuff. Probably some of what's online is pictures of puppets, but there are a lot of good photos out there. 

PH: I have to go on record here and say that I don't think the one with the kitchen window is a picture of a puppet. 

SR: I don't think so either. I watched that one run away. There are a lot of people who are trying to make it sound like that's a puppet because they know it's real. But I saw it run away, and on that one you can see its facial features, you can see the depth. People always say, these things have come millions of light years, why would they want to look in your window? 

PH: That's such a stupid, human way of looking at the situation. 

SR: They do it over and over again. This new movie, The Fourth Kind -- that's what they do, they look in people's windows. That's what they've done, you hear all these accounts of them looking in your window. 

PH: I really like Grandpa, though. Grandpa has -- I have a feeling when I see him. Grandpa emanates something when he's looking in. I shouldn't be calling him this. 

SR: He didn't want to surprise me, that's why he moved away so slowly. You can go on my website and see the actual video. And that's another thing -- no one had that video, it hadn't even gone out. And at Denver, it was all over the place. 

PH: Does your sister remember when the blond woman came to the door? 

SR: Yes, but she remembers three people. 

PH: Not the Possum People story, but when the woman touched your head. 

SR: I don't think I've ever asked her about that. 

PH: What is your feeling about disclosure? 

SR: I think it's going to happen. I think it will have to happen soon. It's -- not our livelihood, but it could make a difference between whether we evolve spiritually and mentally and physically, or if we just self-destruct. I think that's really how important it is. 

PH: You think there's a window of opportunity here. 

SR: We're at a crossroads, yes. I believe that a hundred percent. How big is this window? I don't know. But it's opening up and we have to take advantage of it or else we'll miss it. And there are people that want us to miss it, for their own personal gain, but they don't understand that everything in this universe is connected. All the bad guys, you know, it doesn't matter if you're CIA, ABC, whatever, I don't care. The message is for them too. It's for the bad guys because we're all connected. It's just that they're lost. 

PH: What are you seeing? 

SR: You'll catch fuzzies, orbs, you'll see all kinds of weird things. 

PH:  I think that the phenomena around CSETI groups and the contact protocols is an positive confirmation of Dr. Steven Greer’s approach. 

SR: He is, but I don't agree with him that we designed the Greys. I'll tell you why. First of all, they're designing creatures that are smarter than us, and that are psychic when we're not. How do they do that? 

PH: Well see, I think it's copycat. I think because I've met other people who have had military present in the room during their abductions, I think that whatever, if it be crop circles or UFOs, I think there are real Greys and there are copies of them. And I don't think they need to be made in a factory; I think you can do it with holograms. 

SR: From what I can remember, I think I've been abducted at least ten times, two of which didn't fit in with the other experiences. I think those two might have been something different. Maybe government, but who really knows what government is? I'm not here to cut down the government, because there are some really good people there. I'm here to try to help them save face and get this information out. There are people inside who are fighting to get this information out because it's important, and I want to help them. So I'm not going to say it's government, because I don't know for sure. 

PH: I don't think government is doing this, but I think Steven has the right idea when he says that some of it is created by mind control and the Shadow Government. Some of it is real. I've talked with him about this, and he knows that some of it is not positive. He knows that. But he doesn't want to accentuate the negative when he discusses abductions. Some people really terrify you with their stories of abductions. 

SR: Honestly, it is scary. It is terrifying, but I try to play it down. I want people to understand that there is something out there. It's scary for a lot of reasons. First of all, they're taking you against your will. Secondly, you have no control over anything. But, there are things out there that are good, just like there's good and bad here, there's good and bad out there.  

PH: So if this stopped, would you miss the experience? Would you feel abandoned? 

SR: You miss the good guys. That's typical of an abduction experience, they almost feel like family. Which is weird. If you ever talk to an abductees, the real ones that have it over a long period of time, you kind of miss it. Even my stepson, because he's experienced things around the house. When things quiet down, everyone thinks it's kind of boring.  

PH: I think that's a thing that happens with people, because you're part of something very important, and when it stops, you're not interacting with it any more. 

SR: Honestly, if they would communicate on my level, if they would sit down on my terms, I would absolutely love to be able to talk with them and become friends with them. 

PH: When you see something like the little girl running away, the hybrid children, do you call out to them? 

SR: Oh yes. 

PH: What do you say? 

SR: We had an incident where one of them was in my backyard. I was in my office one night, and there was this little girl looking in my window. I said, Holy crap! And we all ran outside. I could see something ducking down by the trampoline. April said, come here, you want a Barbie? She took a step forward and it went up over the fence.  

PH: You heard it? It could have been an inter-dimensional thing. 

SR: I think it was just the sound of something go over a fence. I watched this little person clear a six-foot fence as if it wasn't there. I couldn't really see it clearly, because it was dark, but I saw something. We went out later, and I stood up on the trampoline and looked over the fence, and I saw something crouched down in the neighbor's yard looking at me. I'm not sure it was a little girl. I thought it was, but it might not have been. 

PH: I know you've had a lot of surveillance cameras. Do you have any here? 

SR: No, they take them out, so there's really no point.  

PH: What about your filming at night? 

SR: If they want me to see something, they'll show it to me. I can just go outside and see them, and they'll wait, and I'll get film of them. Things happen, like with Andrea Beaumont, the producer from ABC. She's been here when stuff happened. She got an Audrey call from a phone that went through the washer, wasn't working, and still got a call through it. They told her they don't want her talking with me about my predictions to ABC

. ( Pan  “Audrey call”is a telephone call from a computerized female voice that could be ET) 

PH: Are these having to do with earth changes, or... 

SR: They're pretty accurate, they've all come true except for one. 

PH: Which predictions? 

SR: No, the ones -- oh, you don't know about it. I really don't believe in that stuff, so I don't talk about it. In 2004, I got a call from Audrey that the Sci Fi Channel wasn't going to be very positive about my case, and that I probably shouldn't do it. We recorded the Audrey call on a tape, but the voice recording was put onto a used VHS tape. They put it away in a box. I wanted to write this stuff down, what I got from my abduction experience about economic collapse, etc., I would get help in 2007, religion in UFOs, and something like twelve out of sixteen of them have come to pass. Anyway, I folded it up and mailed it out everywhere so that it would be proof that Audrey would be able to foretell the future. We decided to open them up in July of this year, and we wanted to have ABC come and film when we opened the package so there wouldn't be any question of tampering. But Andrea got a call from Audrey saying no, don't do that. So we watched the tape, and found many of the predictions have come true. 

PH: Are there other things on that tape that we don't know about yet? 

SR: Yes. 

PH: Do you feel that Obama will be the disclosure president? 

SR: Yes. I feel more than anyone, if they don't take him out first like they did Kennedy. The only reason they took out Kennedy was that he was going to do disclosure. I don't know, it's just my feeling, but hopefully it will happen soon and I'll be able to say, "I told you so." 

PH: Do you feel that the kind of disclosure you're talking about is if they show themselves? 

SR: I think they're testing the waters, I don't think they're going to give the government a choice. Because they're seeing what the government is doing with what we should already have. We should already have this free energy and other stuff. They have to know that big corporations and government are not for the people, they're for themselves. And this is about the people, this is for the people. 

PH: We had this incident at O'Hare. 

SR: That was in the predictions. There was one in England, there was the one in O'Hare. 

PH: We need more of this, but we need it in real time. We need photos. 

SR: People took photos, they were confiscated. People say why don't they park on the White House lawn? They did. They already tried all that. 

PH: Do you think, when we say "They", that there are different types of beings? 

SR: Absolutely. Some of them are good, some aren't, some have their own agenda. 

PH: You had the abductions, the one where you found yourself outside when the doors were all locked. You would have had to go through the wall. 

SR: I had to knock to be let back in. It's happened many times. I've ended up on the roof sometimes. I ended up with a woman’s nightgown. 

PH: (laughs) Yes, I heard about that. Has this happened lately, or do you feel that those particular ET's went home? 

SR: I think they're still -- who are "those ET's?" I think it's evolved a bit more. I think there are good guys in my case. I think there are bad ET's who abduct people, and it's horrible. I think my experiences were really terrifying, but they were almost polite. You hear of these horrific abductions, and you hear of these experiences where they try to teach people. 

PH: Do you get any of that? Are you supposed to do something? 

SR: Absolutely. 

PH: What are you supposed to do? 

SR: I'm doing what I'm supposed to do. There are certain people throughout the world that are going to be put into position as galactic ambassadors. My place in this is to help calm down the population.  

PH: (turning to woman – Lisa, Stan’s wife)

Okay, I'm going to go to you, what do you think your function is? And you definitely have a function, or you wouldn't be writing a book and doing this. 

Lisa Romanak: I think my function is to stabilize him, to keep him grounded to...not reality, because my reality is totally different than it was when I met him. But just grounded in the fact that you were abducted, yes you were injured, but not to the point where you're non-functional. Okay, you came back with a broken rib, but that was an accident and they fixed it. That's my job, even professionally I've always been the caregiver. I've always taken care of the elderly, or children. So when Stan started having these experiences, I thought he was goofy, even though I believed in it. In my book, I use a lot of humor because a lot of it is really funny. He was doing these night writings. He sits in the dark, having these conversations, and his pencil is scratching away like crazy. I hear him saying, "I don't understand, there's not enough room, I can't do this." Then he's hearing them, and he answers them back, "okay, okay," and his pencil is scratching away. And some of them are backwards, or have Aramaic in them. He'll finish, and put it down, and set the pencil in it, and then go back to sleep and not remember them. 

PH: Is this the path that the abductions have come to now? 

SR: I feel that most of them are from Audrey, even though I don't really trust Audrey because I don't know who she is. There are times when she has called and played a strange sound and then I've passed out from it. She has also downloaded other people from the group. Information from other channels.

. ( An Audrey call is a telephone call from a computerized female voice that could be ET) 

PH: Information from other channels? 

SR: I don't like to talk about it, because I don't know what to think of those. I don't remember those weird Grandpa, Grey-regression things. 

PH: I attended one of those, and I have to tell you, the part that bothered me was, how can they be there on call? 

SR: They're not on call, I know when I'm supposed to contact them. 

PH: Oh okay, because the channelers of ET, of Ashtar Command and everything, they just start right away. They're ready, and they begin. But they never seem to wait until the ET's are ready. 

SR: They set it up, I don't. They call Leo Sprinkle. 

PH: Has Leo gotten any Audrey calls? 

SR: Yes, he has. 

PH: You have caller ID. What shows on the display when Audrey calls? 

SR: Your own number. 

PH: What does Andrea Beaumont think of your case? 

SR: Andrea Beaumont got involved because she saw some bizarre stuff. She was here in the house. She's with Larry King now. It's going to get really interesting. Let me tell you why. The first producer they sent out, and Andrea Beaumont, were really into my case. They both got to see some really weird stuff, and they were really gung ho. They took this information to ABC, and the producer suddenly got fired for no reason. She wanted to make it a big, positive thing, and she got fired. I called Andrea for some other reason, and she told me she no longer worked for ABC. She said she had quit because she didn't like what was happening with his case. There was a lot of hate mail coming in because of the way the case was handled. Andrea said, "They don't like me very much right now." So apparently there's something big going on at ABC right now, and my case got the one person fired. They wouldn't even tell her why they fired her, except that it had something to do with my case. 

PH: The impact wasn't what I expected. I expected a greater impact. 

SR: They played it down, I know they did. Even Andrea said that. She said, "There's something up with your case. I didn't like what they were doing." So she's with Larry King Live now. 

PH: Larry King is open to this, but he always has a skeptic on opposite the people. Do you want to play that? 

SR: Any publicity is better than no publicity. I'm not playing anything, I'm just trying to get my message out. My case has split -- I think there's a war going on, not just my case but internally, government-wise, I think some of these people are using me to find out who's what. I can feel it. Even this last call from Audrey pretty much says what we suspect. Those that are involved that are not who they say, that are against Stan, will be able to make a choice to either change or not. 

PH: We have never had such a controversy as that we have over Stan being at Laughlin because of Lie Detector test 

SR: But there's still an out for him, because just because they hired this guy doesn't mean they knew what his agenda was.  

PH: Couldn't you get another lie detector test without telling anybody about it? 

SR: I want to, but even that one shouldn't have been done because I'm suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder. That is supposed to automatically negate the test. Courts of law don't use lie detector tests because they don't work. I was also having a blood sugar problem at that time, and the guy knew about it, and he did the test anyway. My blood sugar was dropping and I wasn't thinking clearly. Also, the way he was asking the questions made them difficult to answer. He'd ask things like, "Was Boo fake?" and I didn't know. I wanted him to ask whether I faked Boo, and I could answer no, but I couldn't answer the question the way it was asked. I don't know whether someone else faked it. The guy tried to call Coast to Coast several times, and they won't talk to him. 

PH: People who are honest can't see it coming. 

SR: We get screwed all the time. MUFON stole our stuff and tried to sell it to the highest bidder. 

PH: If you had the opportunity to speak to people about your experience, what would you want them to know?  

SR: That it's real. That it's time for us as a species to understand that we have neighbors, and that to grow and evolve spiritually and maybe even physically, we have to make that realization. Because if we don't take that step, we're all going to fall down. 

PH: We are at a crossroads. 

SR: We are absolutely at a crossroads. Everybody knows it, from little kids to old people, everybody is waiting for the shift to happen.  

PH: You think you're a facilitator for this. 

SR: I'm one of them, there are a lot of people. All I'm doing is telling my story to get people to realize that there's something out there. If I can believe it, anybody can. I was the biggest skeptic on the planet. I was terrified at first, but there's nothing to be afraid of. There's definitely good and bad out there, and people get mad at me. 

PH: To me, talking to an alien is difficult. We don't have any common background, we don't really know how to communicate with them. 

SR: They're more intelligent than we are; yet they're so curious about us. I have this vision in my head of this little shop where they're selling human-made souvenirs to sell to off-worlders. Like chairs made by humans, sold to Pleiadians. 

PH: Here we are with all these magnets with all these alien faces on them, and they're going home saying, "look, this is how they see us." Do they have refrigerator magnets with our faces on them? 

SR: We have to acknowledge that they're real before we can have a trade agreement with them. We have to stop the hate of all the people of different colors, before we can start to learn how to relate to them. 

PH: We have to get along here before we can get along there. 

SR: It's part of the process. If we can take the focus off ourselves and put the focus on something else, everything will shift.  

PH: As long as the focus isn't on an enemy invasion. That's my biggest fear. 

SR: That will be the government. That’s my biggest fear too, to be honest with you. 

PH: I want to say that if they were going to invade, they'd have invaded in 1947 when we had the atomic bomb and they had a reason to be upset. Why now?  

SR: During biblical times, look at Ezekiel, the first-century frescoes...they've always been here. 

PH: Because you know, you've got a responsibility. But people don't want to know, they don't want responsibility. They just want to watch the game. 

SR: But even if you watch the game now, all the commercials are full of UFOs and aliens. We're seeing this clash between the groups that want disclosure and the ones that want to keep the secrets. 

PH: We're living in an exciting time, I'm really happy that we're all in this together. I'm trying to figure out how to do my job as a journalist. 

SR: I'm trying to figure out how to do my job, too. But they're being ostriches and a Mack truck is coming while their heads are stuck in the sand. I'm trying to get the people to see the truck before they get wiped out. 

PH: It could be a Mack truck if you don't prepare for it. You said that the reason we're being visited is because they're lacking the spirituality or a perception that they, the aliens, don't have. Why do you think that? 

SR: They're watching humanity all the time. 

PH: They do silly things like putting chairs on your roof, and playing peek-a-boo. You think they're watching because they're watching how you guys live? 

SR: There are some theories that they are us, thousands of years in the future, and that they're trying to get back some of the genetic stuff they've lost.  

PH: That's the abduction part. What about the philosophy part? 

SR: When they became so intelligent, they started to lose their spirituality. 

PH: They became like machines, like us spending too much time on the computer. 

SR: Like the movie AI. ( Artificial Intelligence by Steven Spielberg and Stanley Kubric) 

PH: I use that as an example, with the little boy that's half a clone, half human and he got his emotions back and the alien puts his finger on him and says, "You're the only one that has emotions, the last remnant of the human race, because we've all been turned into machines." 

SR: I believe that there are different things out there, and that the more evolved you are, the less physical you are. Some are more spiritual, some are less spiritual. Whatever is visiting us, there are a lot of different types. Some are abducting us because they're trying to save their own race, others are trying to learn about spirituality. The important thing is that we have to know that there's stuff out there. The human race collectively needs to wake up, grow up and start taking responsibility. That's it, plain and simple. 

PH: When you talk like that, do you have people gravitate toward you and say you're right? 

SR: Absolutely. In fact, we're really surprised. The only negativity we get is coming from what we think is the government. 

PH: From the people who really don't want you to disclose. Thanks Stan.